α20 Drucker Schwab Guterres Abe -and back Ackoff Simon Owen Soros Attenborough Neumann Einstein Orwell
(tour alpha 20 is unusual we go chronologically forward; here from Drucker 1967 to currency of Abe/Guterres and return through practical foresight back to V Neumann first designs of games digital humans play
When it comes to jargon of local-to-global transformation it would help to agree in one language (probably english as business lingua) before large language mediating to eg 1000human languages through maths code
back in the 1960s drucker populariused serail post-indsutrail age (brad recommend 1967's discontinuity)- he didnt number this vuis a vus schwab's 4th industrial revolution or Japan's Society 5.0; simpler UN ,leade Guterres is spending hsi 10 years since 2017 asking: can we even change government once since demongraphic constitutions perfects to messaging by armed men on horseback; practically i like summary paper by ackofffor intelligence to leap over inconvenient truths - one definition of a broken system is when the harder previous experts apply their rules (even those society gave them a do no harm monopoly to admin) the more chaos (see maths defn by Einstein et al or view the case of covid) is caused- if uyou are concerned to inovle communities of eg up to 3000 brains in real open spaces not just hackathons, harrison owen's spirited engagements accelerating coperation and emotiobal intel now have half a million replications around the world since 1984 www.openspaceworld.com (beware kids from 9 years up curiously adapt open space facilitation with more flow than elders; sadly most schooling systems ban open space because such joy of innovation interferes with examining mindsets)
Orwell only just creeps into AI Game version 1 where we choose to look at intellects that actively contributed 1850-2025 - of cours the game can be applied at any time in histry but our point is nothing brans can spend 21st c time is uncganged from 1950 unless you are a hermit.Orwell foretld at least 4 amazing contexts:
worldwide sustainabilirt - 1984
the porential tragedy of places like myanmar
the tragedy of world food - aniumal farm
-his local passion for catyalonia's entrepreurs- in supporting their case he contacted tb which robbed us from mire of this future-mapmakers (crusader against dumbing down by top-down media) quests in 1950 age 46
There is a heck of a lot needed in eg wikipedai form to follow how systems analys began from early in 29th and hoiw ai has (on digita se=teroids) become its 21st c trabsformation. IF you can contribute an insight on this map please chat with me chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk . Only recently did bard update me on Herbert Simon whose name I'd heard but who's ledgacy i have only just begun to catch up with
Herbert Simon continued to make significant practical contributions to the field of systems analysis into the 1990s. In 1991, he published The Sciences of the Artificial (3rd ed.), which is a collection of his most important papers on the topic of artificial intelligence. This book was highly influential, and it helped to shape the way that we think about AI today.
Simon also continued to work on the development of computer-based decision-making tools. In 1996, he co-founded the Strategic Planning Institute, which is a non-profit organization that provides decision-making tools to businesses and government agencies.
Simon's work on artificial intelligence and decision-making had a profound impact on the field of systems analysis. He helped to develop new methods for understanding and managing complex systems, and his work is still used today by businesses, governments, and other organizations.
Here are some of Simon's other influential publications:
- Administrative Behavior (1947): This book is a classic work on the theory of organizations. Simon argues that organizations are complex systems that can be understood by using systems analysis techniques.
- Models of Man (1957): This book is a collection of Simon's papers on the psychology of thinking and problem-solving. Simon argues that humans are limited in their ability to process information and make decisions, and he develops a number of models to explain how humans think and solve problems.
- The New Science of Management Decision (1960): This book is a classic work on the field of management science. Simon argues that managers need to use quantitative methods to make better decisions, and he provides a number of examples of how managers can use these methods.
Simon's work is still relevant today, and it continues to be used by businesses, governments, and other organizations. He was a pioneer in the field of systems analysis, and his work has had a profound impact on the way that we think about complex systems.
recursion 1 of above
This might sound like a nerdy question but actuall-actually if i understand correctly they are all trying to make the same giant leap apart from industrial revolution 4
now of course you do need to double wheck as all of these dynamic maps as very fast changing but my understanding is that at japans g20 in 2019 abe called for one addition to industrial revolution 4 that is something he called osaha trach as he hoped everyone would agree to do it by the time of the osaka expo - it was sharing transnatioanlly deep data in ways relevant to poorest local communities in a global voilage world; when we talk of sharing we mean agreeing eg how to see any places greatest climate or adaptation challenges we dont necessdarily mean globally taking action which needs locals to choose
in any event abe's plea caused the un2 framework to add a 9th transformation subsystems codes - it slso moved along some parts of cop26 - where nations were stuck on agreeing what they would all do together could we get on with adaptation knowhow that localities anyone need to make heir own productive deciosnson
it is quite amazing when you think of it that top down national govs for hundreds of years and even multilateral designs of 1945 have not been totally transsformed once compared with corporations which may have gone 3 revolutions
I must admit some of this langauge seems to get lost in translation - in some ways it was simpler in the late 1960s when both peter drucker and my father on behalf of yesrs 15-20 of neumann's survey used the term post-indusrtrial revolution - their point was value in advanced countries was no longer on making inanimste things but in service o even in knowhow products and this would require everyone in advanced economies to be users of brain tools - the coming of the internet, the coming of moibile just being 2 examples that 2wer quite hard to envision when the slide ruler was still the most advanced comutational tool
I find bard LLM extremely useful - if i carefulyl clarifey place and date it gets very helpful ; my father was homescjholed up to about 13 in british embassies in places like stalins mosccw as grandads job was britains main intel on the increasing evil of bothstalin and hitler - a job grandad had started when his postgrad studies as a scot who had travelled to at heidelberg got interrupted by world wat=1 - i remember dad saying that at approximately age 12 he met peter drucker at tea in british embassy moscow - at that time druvcer had started his career in jouranlism- he was always going to place about 12 yeras ahead of my father but my the late 1960s most of their innovation ideas and how fast future was changing were closeesly aligned - here's bards help on seein this
bard says:
Peter Drucker was first employed by the Frankfurter Zeitung, a German newspaper, as a journalist in 1931. He worked for the newspaper until 1933, when he was forced to flee Germany due to the rise of the Nazi Party.
After fleeing Germany, Drucker went to London, where he worked as a freelance journalist for a number of publications, including the Manchester Guardian and the New Statesman. In 1935, he moved to Moscow, where he worked as a correspondent for the Christian Science Monitor.
- In 1937, Drucker left Moscow and moved to London, where he worked as a freelance writer and editor.
- In 1939, he married Rose Huberman, a fellow German Jew who had also fled the Nazis.
- In 1940, Drucker moved to the United States, where he worked as a management consultant for a number of companies, including General Motors and General Electric.
- In 1943, he published his first book, The End of Economic Man, which was a critical analysis of the Nazi economic system.
- In 1949, he published his second book, The Future of Industrial Man, which was a more optimistic view of the future of capitalism.
- In 1954, he published his third book, The Practice of Management, which is considered to be one of the most influential books on management ever written.
- In 1956, he was recruited by Claremont University, where he taught management for the next 20 years.
Did drucker ever discuss the term artificial intelligence
Yes, Drucker did discuss the term artificial intelligence (AI) on a few occasions. In his 1969 book The Age of Discontinuity, he wrote that AI was "one of the most important developments of our time." He also wrote that AI had the potential to "transform the way we live and work."
====================== I hope this episode makes the case for people to track back their \family tree as history is often far more diverse and even a tragedy of accidents - my request is strengthened if you are diaspora or immigrant because our hyperconnecting world needs families to be twin historians of at least 2 places so that we can twin diversity and better yet we can keep track of llms as Large language Mediation attempt to help unite us by mediating the hopes and positive emotional energies if 1000 different cultures
its the case that where peter and dad grew up is the very strange area south to nortn of what is now called the suez canal has been the region where world wars 1,2 and now putins war have spun - its amazing that over 110 years the combined intelligence of today's 8 billion beings still hasnt resolved this one region's complex needs to access world shopping lanes etc
there's another story that has been clear for 70 years - neither father nor drucker were saying that experientially accelerated change was a choice they would make for humans but they were saying tere is no way to stop this acceleration so our last chances of preventing extinction must get enough people mediating ahead of change - in that sense aiforgood is in my view the last chance solutions of all of the above experts way of framing the future- we need to stop ignorant mass interviews on ai risk- yes there are risks by context but these can be specifically clarified (and should already be because all tech has gotten us to today- AI is often all technologies not just its own experts); eg end all bad media; eg make sure no bad actors are playing with viruses or nature's irreversible codes be but if there is anyone telling you we have a bats chance in hell of not getting destroyed by climate without good ai - well its your choice but i am of the belief that extinction would be the greatest maths error ever - and in fact all ai is mathematics befpre it gets applied to anything -
so this is why part of the game of architect of intelligence is asking who are the maths people you trust most- i realise making good mathematicians world class heroes/heroines is not something society has done much of - but as i say extinction would be the greatest maths error ever - and whilst am only a minor mathematician from Cambridge DAMTP compared with peers like conway or hawkings -it saddens me when i see good mathematicians being sidelineds
